Thanks Ady for reading my lengthy post and posting a somewhat helpful reply, but I have written somewhere before (lost track of the posts now) that I have tried this, but the problem is that, at the paste command time the editor instance does not yet have the data, getHTML(); returns "", the dat has not not yet left the clipboard, which I can get with clipBoard.getData('Text'), but this is of course not html. If I could figure out ow to get the html tp parse the rest is easy, but.... this is programming

 

I am temporarily giving up with this issue, and am running it from a custom button on the tool bar, I have managed to figur out why the buttons were not appearing FF, it was because I was referencing the button gif location with \ instead of / this worked in ie but not ff, switching from \ to / works in both.

 

Cheers