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CE failing in many ways.

Last post 04-13-2007, 11:27 PM by Adam. 9 replies.
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  •  03-27-2007, 12:39 PM 27791

    CE failing in many ways.

    I need to decide this week whether to purchase CE.  So far, after putting in much work incorporating this product into my application, I am very disappointed.  Perhaps some of the quirkiness I'm experiencing is my fault and can be corrected.  If not, then I can't see any way I would unleash this product on my users.
     
    Why is it that I can't change colors?  I click on the Font Color drop-down, the grid of colors appears, I click on a color, and it ignores me (i.e. the default color selection does not change) .  Furthermore, when I select some text, then click on the Font Color button (or the Highlight button) the font color (or the hightlight color) of the text does not change.  If I look at the HTML code, the selected text is wrapped in a <span /> tag, but without any properties set.
     
    Why don't bulleted lists get inserted where my cursor is in the document?  Instead of inserting a bulleted, or a numbered, list in my document where I've placed the cursor, and where in the document I want the list to appear, the list appears at the top of the document, and includes all existing text in the document as the list's first item.
     
    Why can't I apply text justification to individual elements of text?  I highlight some text to justify, and instead of justifying just the text I've selected, the text justification is applied to the entire document.
     
    Why can't I apply multiple text formatting propertied to a simgle span of text?  I select some text,  the click Bold and Italics, then I change the Font Size, and the font size changes, but the Bold and Italic properties go away.
     
    I hope these issue can be resolved, and that I'm just doing something wrong.  I don't seem to have these issues here.
     
    James
  •  03-27-2007, 1:03 PM 27792 in reply to 27791

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    James,
     
    For the font color issue, it's about reformatting the span style. Please check the following thread for details:
     
     
    We have a new solution in version 6.0:
     
    Demo:
     
     
    For the justification issue,  It's about HTML List Rules.

    First let's make a test. 

    Type the following HTML code into your FrontPage: 

    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/> 

    Select the first line and click the order list.

    You will find out FrontPage has the same behavior as Cute Editor. 

    The <br> tag is a special HTML element, not a Block-level element like <div>, <p> 

    One of the general rules for what happens when you click on a list toolbar button:

    For selected paragraphs that are not list items, make each paragraph a list item. 

    It's a bit tricky when intervening <br> element. The users may want the editor automatically remove <br> elements; And also want the editor add a list item between each <br>...

    Hope it helps.
     
     

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  •  03-27-2007, 1:41 PM 27798 in reply to 27792

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    Adam:
    James,
     
    For the font color issue, it's about reformatting the span style. Please check the following thread for details:
     
     
    Ok, this answers my question about adding multiple levels of formatting but has nothing to do with a) why I can't change the default font/highlight colors, and b) why I can't apply these colors to selected text in my document.
    Adam:
     
     
    We have a new solution in version 6.0:
     
    Demo:
     
     
    I'll look at this as soon as I can.
    Adam:
     
    For the justification issue,  It's about HTML List Rules.

    First let's make a test. 

    Type the following HTML code into your FrontPage: 

    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/>
    test<br/> 

    Select the first line and click the order list.

    You will find out FrontPage has the same behavior as Cute Editor. 
     
      
    But, in FP, if you hit Enter in Normal view at after the last element on this list, then click the Numbering or Bullets button, the list is entered AFTER this text.  In CE, the text becomes the first element in the list no matter what I do.
     
    This also does not answer why I can't apply text justification of just a single selected span of text and not to the entire document.
    Adam:
    The <br> tag is a special HTML element, not a Block-level element like <div>, <p> 

    One of the general rules for what happens when you click on a list toolbar button:

    For selected paragraphs that are not list items, make each paragraph a list item. 

    It's a bit tricky when intervening <br> element. The users may want the editor automatically remove <br> elements; And also want the editor add a list item between each <br>...
    If I understand you, you're saying that including <br> tag in the HTML of my documents may be what's messing up CE?
    Adam:
    Hope it helps.
     
     
  •  03-27-2007, 2:08 PM 27799 in reply to 27798

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    >>why I can't change the default font/highlight colors, and b) why I can't apply these colors to selected text in my document.
     
    Do you have problems with the following example?
     
     
     

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  •  03-27-2007, 2:25 PM 27800 in reply to 27799

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    Adam:
    >>why I can't change the default font/highlight colors, and b) why I can't apply these colors to selected text in my document.
     
    Do you have problems with the following example?
     
     
     
     
    No. I don't have problems with how CE runs on your site, just on mine.
  •  03-27-2007, 2:31 PM 27801 in reply to 27800

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  •  03-27-2007, 2:41 PM 27802 in reply to 27801

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    Adam:
    Can you download it and test it on your server?
     
     
     
     
    Sorry to be dense, but download what exactly? CE .NET v5.3?  I have downloaded it and deployed it on my server already.  That's what I'm having these problems with.
  •  03-27-2007, 2:48 PM 27803 in reply to 27802

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    jrbrady,
     
    I have no idea why you have this strange problem. So I suggest you download it again and create a new virtual directory for testing.
     
    If you still have this problem, put your site online and send the FTP access to me Adam@CuteSoft.net.
     
     

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  •  03-28-2007, 12:30 PM 27819 in reply to 27803

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    Adam,
     
    FWIW, I figured out what was going on here.  A brief explanation follows.
     
    My application is a CRM.  I'm using CE to allow my users to create mail merge type letters to send to their clients.  My application provides them with a number of letter templates that are shared by all our users.  Users can use these templates and make personalizable copies of them, but they can't edit the templates themselves.
     
    To prevent this, I set the Enabled property to False and the ReadOnly property to True of the CE object when users are viewing a template, but the other way around when viewing one of their own customized letters, so they can edit them.  These properties are set in VB during a post back while retrieving the requested letter template.
     
    Somehow, CE was not setting the ReadOnly property back to false correctly.  Some, but not all, functionality was disabled in CE until after I preformed a subsequent post back request (essentially a browser refresh) on the current letter.  Only then did all functionality return.
     
    I have since stopped setting the ReadOnly property, since it does not appear to work properly, and my problem has gone away.
     
    James
     
     
  •  04-13-2007, 11:27 PM 28310 in reply to 27819

    Re: CE failing in many ways.

    James,

    Version 6.0 is out.  Please try this new version and see the difference.
     
    It's a free upgrade.
     
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